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Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 13:40:21 PST From: Info-Hams Mailing List and Newsgroup <info-hams@ucsd.edu> Errors-To: Info-Hams-Errors@UCSD.Edu Reply-To: Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu Precedence: Bulk Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #237 To: Info-Hams Info-Hams Digest Fri, 4 Mar 94 Volume 94 : Issue 237 Today's Topics: ** New England Ham - Electronic Fleamarket Dates ** 1 March ** Update Comp Control Software for Kenwood TS-690 Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 26 February Help: Neighbor's CW interference Jerk on 20 mtrs Ramsey DF-1 Kit Send Replies or notes for publication to: <Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu> Send subscription requests to: <Info-Hams-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu> Problems you can't solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu. Archives of past issues of the Info-Hams Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives/info-hams". We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 3 Mar 1994 07:38:36 GMT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!MathWorks.Com!news.kei.com!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!senator-bedfellow.mit.edu!w1gsl@network.ucsd.edu Subject: ** New England Ham - Electronic Fleamarket Dates ** 1 March ** Update To: info-hams@ucsd.edu New England Area Ham - Electronic Flea Market *** DATES *** 1994 P 1 of 2 All events are Ham Radio/ Electronic related except ~_____~ ******************************************************************************* 1994 Contact Source ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 5 March Lewiston ME AARC @Multi P CTR $3@8 $5/T@7:30 Sal W1CUW 207 998 2853 F 5 March Twin Mt NH LARK + NCARC @TownHall 8A b$2 s$4 Gil WB1DVD 603 444 2290 F+ 6 March Northampton MA MtTomARA @Smth VoT $12@8 $3@9 Jim K1MEA 413 527 3199 6 March Braintree MA SSARA @ DAV $14/T@9 $2@10:30 Thaire KA1MJR 508 230 2248 F 13 March Bristol CT ICRC @Eastern HS b$4@9 s$10/t@7 Chuck K1DFS 203 747 6377 F+ 19 March Hudson NH IRS @Lions Hall $10/T@6:30 $2@8 John KA1FYB 603 881 5796 F 20 March Westboro MA MMRA @HS $2@10A sell@8AM$8-22 Walter N1HBR 508 481 0994 F+ 20 March Yonkers NY WECAfest @Raceway $5@9 $10tg-$20/table@6 914 962 9666 26 March Portland ME @UofSME gym $6@6:30 $4@8 x6bI295 Ron KA1FI 207 846 9090 F 26 March Upper Saddle R NJ CRRC @SrHS Jack W2EHD 201 768 8360 26,27 March Baltimore MD Hamboree @Timonium 8A- $5 Sell $5/10+ 800 HAM FEST 2 April Waterford CT SCRAMS @MuniHall Auction@10 free Bob KA1BB 203 739 8016 + 10 April Framingham MA @ HS $14@8 $10tg $5@9 $2@10 Barry WN1N 508 877 4947 F+ 10 April Southington CT SARA @HS? N1GCV 203 621 6191 D 17 April Cambridge MA FLEA at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F buy $2@9A sellers $10/sp@7A $8in adv $35/sp "Season Pass" 3rd Sunday Each Month April thru October 17 April Agawam MA HCRA @ Southwick Rec Ctr $3@9 Barry N1IJK 413 747 7010 23 April Nashua NH NE Antique RC $5@9 $1@10 @Res Ctr Church Ray 508 865 1290 23 April Montreal PQ WIARC B$3 $10/Table ti146.91- Jan VE2OL 514 636 4824 + 23,24 April Waltham MA Photographica 10-5 $5 ~photo~ (bef 9PM) 617 965 0807 F 24 April Pittsfield MA NoBARC @Taconic HS $7@7 $2@8 Chuck NZ1Z 413 447 8377 + 29,30 April 1 May Dayton OH F 1 May Buzzards Bay MA WARC @FO Eagle Barry N1EZH 508 759 7924 T+ 1 May Yonkers NY @Lincoln HS $5@9 $18/T@7 Otto WB2SLQ 914 969 1053 + 6,7 May Rochester NH Hoss Traders @FG ex13 off rt 16 $5 noon fri Joe K1RQG 10-12 May Boston MA ELECTRO @ Hynes "Electronics trade show" + 15 May Cambridge MA FLEA at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F 15 May Poughkeepsie NY Mt B ARC @Arl HS $10@6 $5@8 Ken KL7JCQ 914 485 9617 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ LAST UPDATE 3-1-94 de W1GSL P 1 of 2 ******************************************************************************* Additions/ Corrections via Internet w1gsl@athena.mit.edu SASE for updated copy. TCPIP w1gsl@gw.w1mx.ampr.org AX.25 w1gsl@wa1phy.#ema.ma.usa US Mail W1GSL POB 82 MIT Br Cambridge MA 02139 P 2 of 2 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1994 Contact Source ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 20,22 May Rochester NY NYS ARRL Conv Harold K2HC 716 424 7184 A 21 May Forestdale RI RIFMRS @VFW 8A Rick K1KYI 401 725 7507 30 May Whitman MA WARC @Rt 14+18 sell@$10/sp (monday) 617 447 1277 F 5 June Newington CT @HS Flea + ARRL HQ OH Al N1JWF 203 747 1925 T 19 June Cambridge MA FLEA at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F buy $2@9A sellers $10/sp@7A $8in adv $35/sp "Season Pass" 3rd Sunday Each Month April thru October 17 July Cambridge MA FLEA at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F 23 July Nashua NH NE Antique RC $5@9 $1@10 @ Res Ctr Church Ray 508 865 1290 7 Aug Wellesley MA WARS @Babson Trim Hall $2@9 Barbara N1ICQ 617 329 2628 F+ 13 Aug Charlotte VT @Old Lantern CG 8A- $5 su 3P Fri Dave N1ERD 802 893 7660 T 21 Aug Cambridge MA FLEA at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F 27 Aug Gardner MA MARC @Drive-in $5@6 $2@8 Bill WJ1Y 508 939 2643 T 10 Sept Berlin VT CVTARC Robert McCorkle 802 433 6172 A 17 Sept Forestdale RI RIFMRS @VFW 8A Rick K1KYI 401 725 7507 18 Sept Cambridge MA FLEA at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F 21-24 Sept Rochester NY Antique WA Conf Joyce 607 739 5443 25 Sept Framingham MA @ HS $14@8 $10tg $5@9 $2@10 Barry WN1N 508 877 4947 F+ 25 Sept Yonkers NY @Lincoln HS $5@9 $18/T@7 Otto WB2SLQ 914 969 1053 + 1,2 Oct Boxboro MA NE Div Conv. Gene W1VRK 617 631 7388 A 8,9 Oct Durham CT Nutmeg @FG Opens 4PM sat $5-25 Jim N1IZF 203 349 3353 F 16 Oct Cambridge MA FLEA at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F 22,23 Oct Waltham MA Photographica 10-5 $5 ~photo~ (bef 9PM) 617 965 0807 T 29 Oct Nashua NH NE Antique RC $5@9 $1@10 @ Res Ctr Church Ray 508 865 1290 12 Nov Plymouth MA Mayflower RC @Mem Hall 9-3 sell@8 Jim NM1F 508 747 2224 T+ 13 Nov Branford CT SCARA @intrm sch Brad WA1TAS 203 265 9983 T ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ LAST UPDATE 3-1-94 de W1GSL P 2 of 2 Source F= Flyer T= tentative early info + = new info this month A= ARRL J= John Roberts D= W1DL WR NV 73 CQ QST = Mags This list has been compiled from many sources. While we believe the info to be accurate the author can not be responsible for changes or errors. Check with the sponsoring organizations for more details. This list will be posted monthly to USENET. Mailed copies are sent when additions are made. ******************************************************************************* Additions/ Corrections via Internet w1gsl@athena.mit.edu SASE for updated copy. TCPIP w1gsl@gw.w1mx.ampr.org AX.25 w1gsl@wa1phy.#ema.ma.usa US Mail W1GSL POB 82 MIT Br Cambridge MA 02139 New England Area Ham - Electronic Flea Market *** DATES *** 1994 *** Page 3 Electronic distribution only. This page has the overflow if any P3 from the paper version. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1995 Contact Source ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 15 Jan Yonkers NY @Lincoln HS $5@9 $18/T@7 Otto WB2SLQ 914 969 1053 + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ LAST UPDATE 3-1-94 de W1GSL P 3 ******************************************************************************* Additions/ Corrections via Internet w1gsl@athena.mit.edu TCPIP w1gsl@gw.w1mx.ampr.org AX.25 w1gsl@wa1phy.#ema.ma.usa US Mail W1GSL POB 82 MIT Br Cambridge MA 02139 SASE for updated copy as issued. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Mar 94 22:01:16 CST From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!utcsri!newsflash.concordia.ca!canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca!bison!draco!kynes!sys6626!tyrell@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Comp Control Software for Kenwood TS-690 To: info-hams@ucsd.edu I am looking for computer control software for the Kenwood TS-690. I have been told that software for the TS-450 may also work. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Please E-mail me (Bill Sproul) here, or preferably on compuserve at 73742.2210@compuserve.com I do not have ftp access on my accounts, but I have a friend at the University of Manitoba that does. Thanks, Bill Sproul. ------------------------------ Date: 27 Feb 94 16:23:28 GMT From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!fantom!crs-sys!ersys!adec23!ve6mgs!usenet@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 26 February To: info-hams@ucsd.edu /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ DAILY SUMMARY OF SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL ACT 26 FEBRUARY, 1994 /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ (Based In-Part On SESC Observational Data) SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL ACT ------------------------------------------------------------ !!BEGIN!! (1.0) S.T.D. Solar Geophysical Data Broadcast for DAY 057, 02/26/94 10.7 FLUX=094 90-AVG=107 SSN=063 BKI=2111 1101 BAI=003 BGND-XRAY=B1.4 FLU1=8.9E+05 FLU10=1.7E+04 PKI=2122 2111 PAI=005 BOU-DEV=018,009,008,005,005,006,004,007 DEV-AVG=007 NT SWF=00:000 XRAY-MAX= B9.6 @ 0516UT XRAY-MIN= A9.0 @ 0723UT XRAY-AVG= B2.0 NEUTN-MAX= +003% @ 1555UT NEUTN-MIN= -003% @ 0900UT NEUTN-AVG= +0.1% PCA-MAX= +0.1DB @ 2205UT PCA-MIN= -0.7DB @ 0720UT PCA-AVG= -0.0DB BOUTF-MAX=55344NT @ 0719UT BOUTF-MIN=55311NT @ 1919UT BOUTF-AVG=55334NT GOES7-MAX=P:+000NT@ 0000UT GOES7-MIN=N:+000NT@ 0000UT G7-AVG=+071,+000,+000 GOES6-MAX=P:+115NT@ 1900UT GOES6-MIN=N:-057NT@ 0602UT G6-AVG=+092,+037,-030 FLUXFCST=STD:090,090,090;SESC:090,090,090 BAI/PAI-FCST=008,008,010/008,008,015 KFCST=2222 3321 2223 3221 27DAY-AP=009,007 27DAY-KP=3123 3332 2132 2223 WARNINGS= ALERTS=**SWEEP:II=2@2332-2348UTC !!END-DATA!! NOTE: The Effective Sunspot Number for 25 FEB 94 was 37.0. The Full Kp Indices for 25 FEB 94 are: 1+ 2o 5- 4o 2+ 2+ 3- 2- The 3-Hr Ap Indices for 25 FEB 94 are: 5 7 37 30 10 10 11 7 Greater than 2 MeV Electron Fluence for 26 FEB is: 9.6E+07 SYNOPSIS OF ACT -------------------- Solar activity was very low. All the regions on the disk have been quiet and stable. A new region was assigned today as Region 7680 (S13E75). Solar activity forecast: solar activity is expected to be very low through the period. The geomagnetic field has been at quiet levels for the past 24 hours. High-latitudes experienced brief periods of unsettled to active levels during nighttime sectors. Geophysical activity forecast: the geomagnetic field is expected to be unsettled through the period. Event probabilities 27 feb-01 mar Class M 01/01/01 Class X 01/01/01 Proton 01/01/01 PCAF Green Geomagnetic activity probabilities 27 feb-01 mar A. Middle Latitudes Active 10/10/20 Minor Storm 05/05/10 Major-Severe Storm 01/01/01 B. High Latitudes Active 15/15/25 Minor Storm 10/10/15 Major-Severe Storm 05/05/05 HF propagation conditions were normal over all regions. No changes are expected over the low and middle latitudes during the next three days, through 01 March inclusive. High latitudes may experience mild signal degradation on 01 March. COPIES OF JOINT USAF/NOAA SESC SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL REPORTS ======================================================== REGIONS WIT ----------------------------------------------------------- NMBR LOCATION LO AREA Z LL NN MAG TYPE 7675 S11W13 109 0010 HRX 01 002 ALPHA 7678 S14E48 048 0040 HSX 02 002 ALPHA 7679 N03E10 086 0040 DAO 04 006 BET 7680 S13E75 021 0000 AXX 00 001 ALPHA 7681 S14W05 101 0000 AXX 00 002 ALPHA 7671 N11W95 191 PLAGE 7674 S14W69 165 PLAGE 7676 N08E01 095 PLAGE 7677 N20W64 160 PLAGE REGIONS DUE TO RET NMBR LAT 7666 N18 350 LISTING OF SOLAR ENERGETIC EVENTS FOR 26 FEBRUARY, 1994 ------------------------------------------------------- BEGIN MAX END RGN LOC XRAY OP 245MHZ 10CM SWEEP 2324 2336 2349 7675 S12W10 B5.5 SF II POSSIBLE CORONAL MASS EJECTION EVENTS FOR 26 FEBRUARY, 1994 ----------------------------------------------------------- BEGIN MAX END LOCATION TYPE SIZE DUR II IV 26/2332 2348 S12W10 RSP B5.5 25 2 INFERRED CORONAL HOLES: LOCATIONS VALID AT 26/2400Z --------------------------------------------------- ISOLATED HOLES AND POLAR EXT EAST SOUTH WEST NORTH CAR TYPE POL AREA OBSN 63 S30W68 S30W68 S25W83 S18W73 181 ISO POS 003 10830A 64 S59W33 S59W43 S24W90 S24W90 165 EXT 65 S37E07 S37E07 S15W18 S10W13 109 ISO POS 004 10830A SUMMARY OF FLARE EVENTS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY ------------------------------------------------ Date Begin Max End Xray Op Region Locn 2695 MHz 8800 MHz 15.4 GHz ------ ---- ---- ---- ---- -- ------ ------ --------- --------- --------- 25 Feb: 0010 0012 0017 SF 7670 N14W68 0140 0424 0526 C1.4 1133 1201 1243 B8.1 REGION FLARE STATISTICS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY ------------------------------------------------ C M X S 1 2 3 4 Total (%) -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --- ------ Region 7670: 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 001 (33.3) Uncorrellated: 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 002 (66.7) Total Events: 003 optical and x-ray. EVENTS WIT ---------------------------------------------------------------- Date Begin Max End Xray Op Region Locn Sweeps/Optical Observations ------ ---- ---- ---- ---- -- ------ ------ --------------------------- NO EVENTS OBSERVED. NOTES: All times are in Universal Time (UT). Characters preceding begin, max, and end times are defined as: B = Before, U = Uncertain, A = After. All times associated with x-ray flares (ex. flares which produce associated x-ray bursts) refer to the begin, max, and end times of the x-rays. Flares which are not associated with x-ray signatures use the optical observations to determine the begin, max, and end times. Acronyms used to identify sweeps and optical phenomena include: II = Type II Sweep Frequency Event III = Type III Sweep IV = Type IV Sweep V = Type V Sweep Continuum = Continuum Radio Event Loop = Loop Prominence System, Spray = Limb Spray, Surge = Bright Limb Surge, EPL = Eruptive Prominence on the Limb. ** End of Daily Report ** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 02:30:18 GMT From: news.acns.nwu.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!srgenprp!alanb@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Help: Neighbor's CW interference To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Sam Watson (watson@lobby.ti.com) wrote: : I'm not a radio operator, just trying to get along with one. Need advice on : how to eliminate neighbor's 100 watt 10 meter CW transmissions from my house : intercom speakers. Only thing that works is turning down the volume at each : speaker, then we can't hear the doorbell since it's part of the intercom/ : radio. We have put a hi-pass filter on the FM lead, disconnected the : AM lead, soldered .01mf caps across the speaker terminals, and grounded his : antenna to an 8' copper clad rod. Nothing works. I'm betting some of the : ARRL guys on the net have the answer. Any ideas? I wouldn't expect soldering capacitors across the speaker terminals to help because the interference is affecting the intercom electronics, not the speaker. (If you disconnected the speaker wires from the intercom, I bet the interference would go away.) Also grounding the antenna or transmitter is unlikely to do any good. Not sure what you mean about the high-pass filter on the FM lead. Do you get interference in your FM stereo as well? Or is it a wireless intercom that uses an FM transmitter to send the signal? Either way, it sounds like the problem is the ham's signal getting picked up directly by the wiring connected to the intercom/stereo. Be careful about placing bypass capacitors across the speaker leads (on either end) because some amplifiers don't "like" a capacitive load and can oscillate. A better solution is to use what's called a "common- mode choke." You can make one by wrapping the speaker wire many times around a ferrite rod (the loopstick antenna from an old AM table radio works well for this) or better yet, obtain a good-sized ferrite toroid core and wrap the speaker wire many times through that. The ferrite choke should be located as close to the amplifier/intercom as possible (i.e. at the opposite end from the speaker.) If that doesn't work, then try the same trick with the AC power cord going to the intercom. If there are any other wires going to the intercom/stereo, you might have to do it to them as well. Don't give up -- you might have to "choke" all incoming wires simultaneously to get rid of the interference. A big advantage of the common-mode choke method is that it requires no modifications or connections to the electronic equipment. Suitable ferrite devices and interference-reduction techniques are described in a book from ARRL called "Radio Frequency Interference". The ham should know how to obtain a copy. The above should at least help, if not cure, the interference. If you still have a problem after that, perhaps the ham can experiment with moving his antenna to the opposite side of his lot. Alan Bloom N1AL ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 17:39:52 GMT From: amiserv!vpnet!gagme!n5ial!jim@uunet.uu.net Subject: Jerk on 20 mtrs To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In article <2ktv3r$h6t@crcnis1.unl.edu> mcduffie@unlinfo.unl.edu (Gary McDuffie Sr) writes: >kenman@iastate.edu (Kenneth D Anderson) writes: First off, congrats on the upgrade! >>Is this guy a fixture on 20 meters, or did I just get lucky? > >You got lucky. That is to say that you were lucky you only heard one >station doing that. It is fairly common these days. I didn't say >liked, I said common. Unfortunately, today's appreciation and respect >of one's license is at an all time low for many. I just remembered one of the key reasons why I abandoned the voice segment of the HF bands so long ago..... Yes, it's all coming back to me now. :-) I don't know how you feel about other modes (and of course, that choice is strictly your own), but you might want to consider looking into some of the other modes, such as cw, RTTY, AMTOR and PacTOR (my personal favorites these days...cw is another, although I'm severely out of practice, and would probably have problems even copying 20 wpm, much less 30, like I used to), packet, etc.... I've never worked RTTY, but I'm guessing that it's basically like AMTOR/PacTOR---basically free of the lids, and loaded with lots of good folks. You might also want to check out the WARC bands. I haven't been on any of them except 30m, myself, but I'm told that they're all much cleaner (I'm told that they're also frequented by lots of good folks, and I know this was certainly true of 30m when I was basically living on 30m several years ago). Later, --jim -- 73 DE N5IAL (/4) < Running Linux 0.99 PL10 > jim@n5ial.mythical.com ICBM: 30.23N 86.32W || j.graham@ieee.org Packet: N5IAL@W4ZBB (Ft. Walton Beach, FL) E-mail me for information about KAMterm (host mode for Kantronics TNCs). ------------------------------ Date: 1 Mar 94 05:40:25 GMT From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!news.Brown.EDU!noc.near.net!news.delphi.com!usenet@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Ramsey DF-1 Kit To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Anyone had any experience with this direction finding kit, and if so, what? Thank you. Sherwin. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 01:39:34 GMT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!gatech!swrinde!sgiblab!wetware!spunky.RedBrick.COM!psinntp!psinntp!arrl.org!ehare@network.ucsd.edu To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <1994Feb28.170834.1217@pixar.com>, <1994Feb28.230819.12135@arrl.org>, <2l2o2v$4ju@auggie.CCIT.Arizona.EDU>unky.R Subject : Re: Have a say about ARRL policy howard n lester (hlester@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu) wrote: : In article <1994Feb28.230819.12135@arrl.org>, : Ed Hare (KA1CV) <ehare@arrl.org> wrote: : >You can also usually find your Division Director at most major hamfests : How much do they usually sell for? : :) Ah, Howard, my dear friend, you can always find a way to get me in more trouble. :-) A warm and personal 73 from ARRL HQ, Ed -- ----- Ed Hare, KA1CV ehare@arrl.org American Radio Relay League ------------------------------ Date: 1 Mar 94 02:41:54 GMT From: news.Hawaii.Edu!uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu!jherman@ames.arpa To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <rcrw90-240294091440@129.188.192.6>, <CLtKxy.9q1@news.Hawaii.Edu>, <rcrw90-280294094834@waters.corp.mot.com.corp.mot.com>ix3.uhc Subject : Re: RAMSEY FX TRANSCEIVER In article <rcrw90-280294094834@waters.corp.mot.com.corp.mot.com> rcrw90@email.mot.com (Mike Waters) writes: > >You must tell me how to carry on a QSK conversation when you are running >your CQ tape Jeff. They must be *highly* skilled operators to do that - I >guess one of the lost arts of radio :-) > The OTs used to be able to carry on a QSO and a verbal conversation simultaneously! But you're correct here. One possibility is the op might be working a ship on one band and the other xmtrs are still carrying the CQ tape. That's doubtful, though; at NMO, what ever was sent on the key went out over ALL 6 xmtrs simultaneously. That way ships calling us on another band wouldn't think we went to sleep (which is not hard to do at 3am). >Strange that the SITOR and FAX stuff seems to be busy passing traffic all >the time even if you can only hear one side of it. Dunno. Those are new modes to me... I'll deny I ever said this but I will grant you that other modes will eventually take over CW (oh my God - I don't believe I admitted that) - what will it take? As long as the shore stations keep monitoring the CW frequencies some ships will keep using that mode. So the decision rests entirely in the lap of the shore stations. 73 Mike, Jeff NH6IL ------------------------------ Date: 26 Feb 94 22:31:30 GMT From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!apple.com!voder!zok!wattres!steve@network.ucsd.edu To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <2733@indep1.chi.il.us>, <rohvm1.mah48d-220294100035@136.141.220.39>, <tcjCLpvwz.M5C@netcom.com> Subject : Re: Probable demise of the online repeater directory project In article <tcjCLpvwz.M5C@netcom.com> tcj@netcom.com (Todd Jonz) writes: >Conway Yee (yee@mipg.upenn.edu) writes: > > > Recently, I received a polite letter from the ARRL lawyers > > threatening legal action if I continue on this project. > > Specifically, they state that the ARRL owns the FACTS present in the > > repeater directory and that the format of the database infringes > > upon the ARRL copyright. Umm... I'll quietly not comment on this line; nobody owns the individual pieces of data. >John E. Taylor III (rohvm1.mah48d@rohmhaas.com) replies: > > > I'm an ARRL member, and considering ARRL put a fair amount of effort > > into compiling the Repeater Directory, I'd feel they weren't using > > my money wisely if they did _not_ enforce their copyright to the > > Directory. >I'm an ARRL member, too, but I couldn't disagree more with John's opinion on >this issue. I'm afraid I have to agree with John on this one. That's why I specifically asked that people *NOT* type in the repeater directory when I was trying this same project several years ago. The thing that is most noticably missing from the paper form of the Repeater Directory is location information and HAAT that is useful to someone who is not familiar with the geography of the area. For instance, it's non- obvious (to someone who hasn't been there) that a repeater in Cambridge, MA., will easily cover "Boston" (whatever that means unto itself; is it the city, the metro area?), Sommerville, and all manner of little towns outside the 195 (I think it is) loop. I only figured this out after quite a bit of experimentation, and looking at a topo map didn't help a whole bunch, because I didn't know HAAT or location. I'll admit that this example is somewhat contrived; it's much worse out here in the west where there are hills (if not actual mountains) between you and the repeater. For instance, there is a repeater less than 10 miles from my home QTH which I have *no* hope of hitting; there's the side of a hill in the way. This is why I was trying to get Latitude / Longitude / HAAT information when I was building an online database. However, after more than a year of data gathering (almost completely by asking people on the 'net to submit their favorite repeater), I had 50 repeaters nationwide. I will readily admit that I didn't "market" the database aggressively, because I didn't have time to. However, I did check the coverage one several of the entries by looking at a topo map of the area, finding the repeater, and looking at what the coverage should look like. It seemed to match my expectations. On another note, it seems that there are a great many repeater owners who are unwilling to let the exact site of the repeater be known; I have to admit a large amount of confusion on this point, since RDF techniques are so simple as to make finding a repeater trivial. Oh, by the way Todd, I buy *4* copies of the paper directory; home, work, car, and the emergency bag. ;) 73 de KD6GGD -- Steve Watt KD6GGD Packet: KD6GGD @ N0ARY.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NA ICBM: 121W 56' 53.1" / 37N 20' 16.7" Internet: Home: steve@wattres.SJ.CA.US "I am always ready to learn, although I Work: swatt@lynx.com don't always like being taught." -- Winston Churchill ------------------------------ End of Info-Hams Digest V94 #237 ******************************